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St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922

A Guide to Stoicism 1 ¶5 — St. George Stock (modern guide)

From “Philosophy among the Greeks and Romans”

Original English text (1908)

St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 1 ¶5

It was assumed by the Greeks that the ways of nature were 'the ways of pleasantness,' and that 'all her paths' were 'peace.' This may seem to us a startling assumption, but that is because we do not mean by 'nature' the same thing as they did. We connect the term with the origin of a thing, they connected it rather with the end; by the 'natural state' we mean a state of savagery, they meant the highest civilization; we mean by a thing's nature what it is or has been, they meant what it ought to become under the most favourable conditions; not the sour crab, but the mellow glory of the Hesperides worthy to be guarded by a sleepless dragon, was to the Greeks the natural apple. Hence we find Aristotle maintaining that the State is a natural product, because it is evolved out of social relations which exist by nature. Nature indeed was a highly ambiguous term to the Greeks no less than to ourselves, but in the sense with which we are now concerned, the nature of anything was defined by the Peripatetics as 'the end of its becoming.' Another definition of theirs puts the matter still more clearly. 'What each thing is when its growth has been completed, that we declare to be the nature of each thing'.
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St. George Stock, Stoicism (1908), text of the Haldeman-Julius reprint “A Guide to Stoicism”. Text: Project Gutenberg #7514. Sources and licences

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When the Greeks spoke of living by nature they did not mean a wild or primitive state but a thing's fully developed, best condition. The natural apple is the ripe, glorious one rather than the sour crab apple, so nature points to what something is meant to become.

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“Peripatetics”
— followers of Aristotle
“Hesperides”
— the mythical garden of golden apples

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  • Nature and the cosmos
  • Virtue and character

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