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St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922

A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶7 — St. George Stock (modern guide)

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Original English text (1908)

St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶7

How then was the impression which had reality behind it to be distinguished from that which had not? "By the feel" is all that the Stoics really had to say in answer to this question. Just as Hume made the difference between sense-impressions and ideas to lie in the greater vividness of the former, so did they; only Hume saw no necessity to go beyond the impression, whereas the Stoics did. Certain impressions, they maintained, carried with them an irresistible conviction of their own reality, and this, not merely in the sense that they existed; but also that they were referable to an external cause. These were called "gripping phantasies." Such a phantasy did not need proof of its own existence, or of that of its object. It possessed self-evidence. Its occurrence was attended with yielding and assent on the part of the soul. For it is as natural for the soul to assent to the self-evident as it is for it to pursue its proper good. The assent to a griping phantasy was called "comprehension," as indicating the firm hold that the soul thus took of reality. A gripping phantasy was defined as one which was stamped and impressed from an existing object, in virtue of that object itself, in such a way as it could not be from a non-existent object. The clause "in virtue of that object itself" was put into the definition to provide against such a case as that of the mad Orestes, who takes his sister to be a Fury. There the impression was derived from an existing object, but not from that object as such, but as coloured by the imagination of the percipient.
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St. George Stock, Stoicism (1908), text of the Haldeman-Julius reprint “A Guide to Stoicism”. Text: Project Gutenberg #7514. Sources and licences

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The Stoic test for a true impression was that some impressions arrive with an overwhelming sense of reality, which the soul naturally accepts. Only those that come truly from the object itself count, which is why a deluded mind that misreads a real person gets no credit.

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“gripping phantasies”
— impressions so clear and forceful that they compel belief
“assent”
— agreeing to an impression as true
“comprehension”
— a firm grasp of something real

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