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St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922

A Guide to Stoicism 4 ¶11–14 — St. George Stock (modern guide)

From “Ethic”

Original English text (1908)

St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 4 ¶11–14

There was therefore something rational corresponding to three out of four primary passions--against delight was to be set joy; against grief there was nothing to be set, for that arose from the presence of ill which would rather never attach to the sage. Grief was the irrational conviction that one ought to afflict oneself where there was no occasion for it. The ideal of the Stoics was the unclouded serenity of Socrates of whom Xanthippe declared that he had always the same face whether on leaving the house In the morning or on returning to it at night. As the motley crowd of passions followed the banners of their four leaders so specific forms of feeling sanctioned by reason were severally assigned to the three eupathies. Things were divided by Zeno into good, bad, and indifferent. To good belonged virtue and what partook of virtue; to bad, vice and what partook of vice. All other things were indifferent. To the third class then belonged such things as life and death, health and sickness, pleasure and pain, beauty and ugliness, strength and weakness, honour and dishonour, wealth and poverty, victory and defeat, nobility and baseness of birth.
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St. George Stock, Stoicism (1908), text of the Haldeman-Julius reprint “A Guide to Stoicism”. Text: Project Gutenberg #7514. Sources and licences

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Only virtue is good and only vice is bad; everything else is indifferent, including life and death, health and sickness, pleasure and pain, wealth and poverty, honour and dishonour, and victory and defeat. This is why the ideal is the steady, unclouded calm shown by Socrates, who wore the same face in the morning as at night.

Older wording

“indifferent”
— neither good nor bad in itself
“eupathies”
— good feelings that the wise person can have
“baseness of birth”
— low social origin

Themes and situations

  • Virtue and character
  • Grief and mourning
  • Peace of mind
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Adversity and hardship
  • Illness or diagnosis
  • Losing money
  • Failure and mistakes
  • Fear of death
  • Money, status and wanting more

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