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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 1.19 ¶6 — Epictetus

From “How We Should Behave to Tyrants”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 1.19 ¶6

Has a man been exalted to the tribuneship? All who meet him offer their congratulations: one kisses his eyes, another the neck, and the slaves kiss his hands. He goes to his house, he finds torches lighted. He ascends the Capitol: he offers a sacrifice on the occasion. Now who ever sacrificed for having had good desires? for having acted conformably to nature? For in fact we thank the gods for those things in which we place our good. A person was talking to me today about the priesthood of Augustus. I say to him: “Man, let the thing alone: you will spend much for no purpose.” But he replies, “Those who draw up agreements will write my name.” Do you then stand by those who read them, and say to such persons “It is I whose name is written there”? And if you can now be present on all such occasions, what will you do when you are dead? “My name will remain.” Write it on a stone, and it will remain. But come, what remembrance of you will there be beyond Nicopolis? “But I shall wear a crown of gold.” If you desire a crown at all, take a crown of roses and put it on, for it will be more elegant in appearance.
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.19 ¶6, tr. George Long (1877)

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People celebrate a political office with parties and sacrifices, yet nobody celebrates having good desires or acting well, which shows what we truly value. Wanting a name on contracts or a gold crown to be remembered is empty, since you will not be there to enjoy it, and a simple wreath of roses is nicer anyway.

Older wording

“tribuneship”
— the office of tribune, a Roman political post
“Capitol”
— the sacred hill of Rome with its main temple
“priesthood of Augustus”
— an honorary post in the cult of the emperor

Themes and situations

  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Ambition and success
  • Pride and humility
  • Death and mortality
  • Virtue and character
  • Handling success
  • Money, status and wanting more

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