Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 1.29 ¶5–6 — Epictetus
From “On Constancy (Or Firmness)”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 1.29 ¶5–6
Then sitting in prison I say: The man who cries out in this way neither hears what words mean, nor understands what is said, nor does he care at all to know what philosophers say or what they do. Let him alone. But now he says to the prisoner, “Come out from your prison.”—If you have no further need of me in prison, I come out: if you should have need of me again, I will enter the prison.—“How long will you act thus?”—So long as reason requires me to be with the body: but when reason does not require this, take away the body, and fare you well. Only we must not do it inconsiderately, nor weakly, nor for any slight reason; for, on the other hand, God does not wish it to be done, and he has need of such a world and such inhabitants in it. But if he sounds the signal for retreat, as he did to Socrates, we must obey him who gives the signal, as if he were a general.
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.29 ¶5–6, tr. George Long (1877)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/discourses/1.29.5
Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesA person who stays calm in prison accepts release or return to it as reason requires. When the question of leaving life arises, it is something to be done only for serious reason and not lightly, in line with what God wills. The passage touches on ending one's life, so it is flagged as sensitive.
Older wording
- “inconsiderately”
- — thoughtlessly, without reflection
Themes and situations
- Death and mortality
- Freedom
- Acceptance and fate
- Duty and roles