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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 1.7 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “Of the Use of Sophistical Arguments and Hypothetical and the Like”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 1.7 ¶2

But in fact in some cases we have properly granted the premises or assumptions, and there results from them something; and though it is not true, yet nonetheless it does result. What then ought I to do? Ought I to admit the falsehood? And how is that possible? Well, should I say that I did not properly grant that which we agreed upon? But you are not allowed to do even this. Shall I then say that the consequence does not arise through what has been conceded? But neither is this allowed. What then must be done in this case? Consider if it is not this: as to have borrowed is not enough to make a man still a debtor, but to this must be added the fact that he continues to owe the money and that the debt is not paid, so it is not enough to compel you to admit the inference that you have granted the premises (τὰ λήμματα), but you must abide by what you have granted. Indeed, if the premises continue to the end such as they were when they were granted, it is absolutely necessary for us to abide by what we have granted, and we must accept their consequences: but if the premises do not remain such as they were when they were granted, it is absolutely necessary for us also to withdraw from what we granted, and from accepting what does not follow from the words in which our concessions were made. For the inference is now not our inference, nor does it result with our assent, since we have withdrawn from the premises which we granted. We ought then both to examine such kinds of premises, and such change and variation of them (from one meaning to another), by which in the course of questioning or answering, or in making the syllogistic conclusion, or in any other such way, the premises undergo variations, and give occasion to the foolish to be confounded, if they do not see what conclusions (consequences) are. For what reason ought we to examine? In order that we may not in this matter be employed in an improper manner nor in a confused way.
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A technical point in logic about what to do when premises you properly accepted lead to a false conclusion. You are bound to the conclusion only so long as the premises remain what they were when granted, and if their meaning shifts mid-argument you may withdraw.

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“premises”
— the starting statements of an argument
“syllogistic”
— in the form of a formal three-part argument
“inference”
— a conclusion drawn from premises

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