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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.11 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “What the Beginning of Philosophy Is”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.11 ¶2

Observe: this is the beginning of philosophy, a perception of the disagreement of men with one another, and an inquiry into the cause of the disagreement, and a condemnation and distrust of that which only “seems,” and a certain investigation of that which “seems” whether it “seems” rightly, and a discovery of some rule (κανόνος), as we have discovered a balance in the determination of weights, and a carpenter’s rule (or square) in the case of straight and crooked things.—This is the beginning of philosophy. Must we say that all things are right which seem so to all? And how is it possible that contradictions can be right?—Not all then, but all which seem to us to be right.—How more to you than those which seem right to the Syrians? why more than what seem right to the Egyptians? why more than what seems right to me or to any other man? Not at all more. What then “seems” to every man is not sufficient for determining what “is”; for neither in the case of weights or measures are we satisfied with the bare appearance, but in each case we have discovered a certain rule. In this matter then is there no rule superior to what “seems”? And how is it possible that the most necessary things among men should have no sign (mark), and be incapable of being discovered? There is then some rule. And why then do we not seek the rule and discover it, and afterwards use it without varying from it, not even stretching out the finger without it? For this, I think, is that which when it is discovered cures of their madness those who use mere “seeming” as a measure, and misuse it; so that for the future, proceeding from certain things (principles) known and made clear, we may use in the case of particular things the preconceptions which are distinctly fixed.
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.11 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)

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When people disagree, the starting point for thinking is to doubt that how things seem to you is how they are, and to look for a standard, as we use scales for weight and a ruler for straightness. If we need rules for weighing and measuring, the most important matters in life cannot sensibly be left to feelings alone.

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“κανόνος”
— a rule or standard for judging
“preconceptions”
— natural, shared basic ideas such as good and fair

Themes and situations

  • Judgements and impressions
  • Learning and progress
  • Justice and fairness

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