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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.23 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “On the Power of Speaking”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.23 ¶3

What then? it (the will) says, if the fact is so, can that which ministers be superior to that to which it ministers, can the horse be superior to the rider, or the dog to the huntsman, or the instrument to the musician, or the servants to the king? What is that which makes use of the rest? The will. What takes care of all? The will. What destroys the whole man, at one time by hunger, at another time by hanging, and at another time by a precipice? The will. Then is anything stronger in men than this? and how is it possible that the things which are subject to restraint are stronger than that which is not? What things are naturally formed to hinder the faculty of vision? Both will and things which do not depend on the faculty of the will. It is the same with the faculty of hearing, with the faculty of speaking in like manner. But what has a natural power of hindering the will? Nothing which is independent of the will; but only the will itself, when it is perverted. Therefore this (the will) is alone vice or alone virtue.
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.23 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)

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In plain English

AI-written notes

Of all human abilities, the power of choice rules the rest and can be blocked only by itself when it is perverted, never by outside things. It is the one thing that can ruin a person, even driving them to destroy themselves, so it alone is vice or virtue.

Older wording

“faculty of the will”
— your power of choice
“perverted”
— twisted or corrupted

Themes and situations

  • What is in our control
  • Virtue and character
  • Judgements and impressions