Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.2 ¶3 — Epictetus
From “In What a Man Ought to Be Exercised Who Has Made Proficiency; and That We Neglect the Chief Things”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.2 ¶3
Let us look at your principles also. For is it not plain that you value not at all your own will (προαίρεσις), but you look externally to things which are independent of your will? For instance, what will a certain person say? and what will people think of you? will you be considered a man of learning; have you read Chrysippus or Antipater? for if you have read Archedemus also, you have everything [that you can desire]. Why are you still uneasy lest you should not show us who you are? Would you let me tell you what manner of man you have shown us that you are? You have exhibited yourself to us as a mean fellow, querulous, passionate, cowardly, finding fault with everything, blaming everybody, never quiet, vain: this is what you have exhibited to us. Go away now and read Archedemus; then if a mouse should leap down and make a noise, you are a dead man. For such a death awaits you as it did—what was the man’s name?—Crinis; and he too was proud, because he understood Archedemus.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.2 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/discourses/3.2.3
Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesWorrying about what people will say and whether you will be seen as learned shows that you are valuing things outside your own choice. Such anxiety exposes you as petty, touchy and vain, and no amount of reading will save you when a mouse's scurry frightens you out of your wits.
Older wording
- “querulous”
- — constantly complaining
Themes and situations
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Pride and humility
- What is in our control
- Fear and anxiety
- Fear of failure
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