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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 3.22 ¶9 — Epictetus

From “About Cynism”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 3.22 ¶9

This is the language of the Cynics, this their character, this is their purpose. You say “No: but their characteristic is the little wallet, and staff, and great jaws: the devouring of all that you give them, or storing it up, or the abusing unseasonably all whom they meet, or displaying their shoulder as a fine thing.” Do you see how you are going to undertake so great a business? First take a mirror: look at your shoulders; observe your loins, your thighs. You are going, my man, to be enrolled as a combatant in the Olympic games, no frigid and miserable contest. In the Olympic games a man is not permitted to be conquered only and to take his departure; but first he must be disgraced in the sight of all the world, not in the sight of Athenians only, or of Lacedaemonians, or of Nicopolitans; next he must be whipped also if he has entered into the contests rashly: and before being whipped, he must suffer thirst and heat, and swallow much dust.
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The real character of the Cynic is not the bag, the staff and the rude behaviour that imitators copy. Before taking on such a way of life, size up your own strength honestly, because it is like entering the Olympics: you may be publicly disgraced, whipped and exhausted before you win anything.

Older wording

“Cynics”
— followers of the austere philosophy of Diogenes, living with almost no possessions
“Nicopolitans”
— the people of Nicopolis, the city where Epictetus taught
“Lacedaemonians”
— Spartans

Themes and situations

  • Preparing for difficulty
  • Courage
  • Learning and progress
  • Pride and humility
  • Resilience and endurance
  • A hard decision

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