Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.24 ¶11 — Epictetus
From “That We Ought Not to Be Moved by a Desire of Those Things Which Are Not in Our Power”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.24 ¶11
Then in the place of all other delights substitute this, that of being conscious that you are obeying God, that not in word, but in deed you are performing the acts of a wise and good man. For what a thing it is for a man to be able to say to himself, “Now whatever the rest may say in solemn manner in the schools and may be judged to be saying in a way contrary to common opinion (or in a strange way), this I am doing; and they are sitting and are discoursing of my virtues and inquiring about me and praising me; and of this Zeus has willed that I shall receive from myself a demonstration, and shall myself know if he has a soldier such as he ought to have, a citizen such as he ought to have, and if he has chosen to produce me to the rest of mankind as a witness of the things which are independent of the will: See that you fear without reason, that you foolishly desire what you do desire: seek not the good in things external; seek it in yourselves: if you do not, you will not find it. For this purpose he leads me at one time hither, at another time sends me thither, shows me to men as poor, without authority, and sick; sends me to Gyara, leads me into prison, not because he hates me, far from him be such a meaning, for who hates the best of his servants? nor yet because he cares not for me, for he does not neglect any even of the smallest things; but he does this for the purpose of exercising me and making use of me as a witness to others. Being appointed to such a service, do I still care about the place in which I am, or with whom I am, or what men say about me? and do I not entirely direct my thoughts to God and to his instructions and commands?”
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.24 ¶11, tr. George Long (1877)
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Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesTake your satisfaction from knowing you are acting well, not from praise. Poverty, sickness, exile or prison can be seen as a posting that tests you and lets you show others where the good really lies, not as a sign that you are hated or forgotten, so stop worrying about where you are, who you are with and what people think.
Older wording
- “independent of the will”
- — outside your control
- “Gyara”
- — a barren Aegean island used by Romans as a place of exile
Themes and situations
- Virtue and character
- Adversity and hardship
- Acceptance and fate
- Exile and loss of home
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Moving away or exile
- Being treated unfairly
- Searching for meaning
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