Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.26 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “To Those Who Fear Want”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.26 ¶2
“Yes: but my wife and children also suffer hunger.”—Well then, does their hunger lead to any other place? Is there not the same descent to some place for them also? Is not there the same state below for them? Do you not choose then to look to that place full of boldness against every want and deficiency, to that place to which both the richest and those who have held the highest offices, and kings themselves, and tyrants must descend? or to which you will descend hungry, if it should so happen, but they burst by indigestion and drunkenness. What beggar did you hardly ever see who was not an old man, and even of extreme old age? But chilled with cold, day and night, and lying on the ground, and eating only what is absolutely necessary, they approach near to the impossibility of dying. Cannot you write? Cannot you teach (take care of) children? Cannot you be a watchman at another person’s door?—“But it is shameful to come to such a necessity.”—Learn then first what are the things which are shameful, and then tell us that you are a philosopher: but at present do not, even if any other man call you so, allow it.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.26 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
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Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesEven if your family goes hungry, the final destination is the same for everyone, rich or poor, so meet want with boldness instead of dread. Look for any honest work you can do, such as writing, teaching children or watching a door, and learn what is truly shameful, which is not poverty or humble work.
Older wording
- “descent”
- — the going down to the underworld, meaning death
Themes and situations
- Wealth and poverty
- Fear and anxiety
- Resilience and endurance
- Death and mortality
- Virtue and character
- Losing money
- Losing a job
- Anxiety about the future
- Parenting
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