Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.3 ¶3–4 — Epictetus
From “What Is the Matter on Which a Good Man Should Be Employed, and in What We Ought Chiefly to Practice Ourselves”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.3 ¶3–4
Against (or with respect to) this kind of thing chiefly a man should exercise himself. As soon as you go out in the morning, examine every man whom you see, every man whom you hear; answer as to a question: What have you seen? A handsome man or woman? Apply the rule. Is this independent of the will, or dependent? Independent. Take it away. What have you seen? A man lamenting over the death of a child. Apply the rule. Death is a thing independent of the will. Take it away. Has the proconsul met you? Apply the rule. What kind of thing is a proconsul’s office? Independent of the will, or dependent on it? Independent. Take this away also. It does not stand examination. Cast it away; it is nothing to you. If we practiced this and exercised ourselves in it daily from morning to night, something indeed would be done. But now we are forthwith caught half asleep by every appearance, and it is only, if ever, that in the school we are roused a little. Then when we go out, if we see a man lamenting, we say, “He is undone.” If we see a consul, we say, “He is happy.” If we see an exiled man, we say, “He is miserable.” If we see a poor man, we say, “He is wretched: he has nothing to eat.”
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.3 ¶3–4, tr. George Long (1877)
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Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesTrain yourself every morning to test each person and event you meet by asking whether it depends on your own choice, and if it does not, set it aside as nothing to you. Without this daily practice we are caught half asleep by every impression, judging people as happy because they are powerful, or as wretched because they are poor, exiled or grieving.
Older wording
- “independent of the will”
- — outside your own choice, not in your control
- “appearance”
- — the impression something makes on your mind
- “proconsul”
- — a Roman provincial governor
Themes and situations
- What is in our control
- Judgements and impressions
- Preparing for difficulty
- Self-discipline and habit
- Envy and comparison
- Money, status and wanting more
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