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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.1 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “About Freedom”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶2

If then a man who has been twice consul should hear this, if you add, “But you are a wise man; this is nothing to you,” he will pardon you. But if you tell him the truth, and say, “You differ not at all from those who have been thrice sold as to being yourself not a slave,” what else ought you to expect than blows? For he says, “What, I a slave, I whose father was free, whose mother was free? I whom no man can purchase? I am also of senatorial rank, and a friend of Caesar, and I have been a consul, and I own many slaves.”—In the first place, most excellent senatorial man, perhaps your father also was a slave in the same kind of servitude, and your mother, and your grandfather, and all your ancestors in an ascending series. But even if they were as free as it is possible, what is this to you? What if they were of a noble nature, and you of a mean nature; if they were fearless, and you a coward; if they had the power of self-restraint, and you are not able to exercise it.
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)

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Rank, office and free birth do not make anyone free if they are ruled by fear, cowardice and weak self-control. A powerful person told the truth about this would be offended, but the nobility of their ancestors counts for nothing next to their own character.

Older wording

“consul”
— one of the two highest elected officials in Rome
“senatorial rank”
— membership of the Roman senatorial class

Themes and situations

  • Freedom
  • Pride and humility
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Virtue and character
  • Ambition and success
  • Handling success

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