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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.1 ¶7 — Epictetus

From “About Freedom”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶7

Further then answer me this question also: does freedom seem to you to be something great and noble and valuable?—“How should it not seem so?” Is it possible then when a man obtains anything so great and valuable and noble to be mean?—“It is not possible.”—When then you see any man subject to another or flattering him contrary to his own opinion, confidently affirm that this man also is not free; and not only if he do this for a bit of supper, but also if he does it for a government (province) or a consulship. And call these men little slaves who for the sake of little matters do these things, and those who do so for the sake of great things call great slaves, as they deserve to be.—“This is admitted also.”—Do you think that freedom is a thing independent and self-governing?—“Certainly.”—Whomsoever then it is in the power of another to hinder and compel, declare that he is not free. And do not look, I entreat you, after his grandfathers and great grandfathers, or inquire about his being bought or sold; but if you hear him saying from his heart and with feeling, “Master,” even if the twelve fasces precede him (as consul), call him a slave. And if you hear him say, “Wretch that I am, how much I suffer,” call him a slave. If finally you see him lamenting, complaining, unhappy, call him a slave though he wears a praetexta. If then he is doing nothing of this kind, do not yet say that he is free, but learn his opinions, whether they are subject to compulsion, or may produce hindrance, or to bad fortune; and if you find him such, call him a slave who has a holiday in the Saturnalia: say that his master is from home; he will return soon, and you will know what he suffers. “Who will return?” Whoever has in himself the power over anything which is desired by the man, either to give it to him or to take it away. “Thus then have we many masters?” We have: for we have circumstances as masters prior to our present masters; and these circumstances are many. Therefore it must of necessity be that those who have the power over any of these circumstances must be our masters. For no man fears Caesar himself, but he fears death, banishment, deprivation of his property, prison, and disgrace. Nor does any man love Caesar, unless Caesar is a person of great merit, but he loves wealth, the office of tribune, praetor, or consul. When we love, and hate, and fear these things, it must be that those who have the power over them must be our masters. Therefore we adore them even as gods; for we think that what possesses the power of conferring the greatest advantage on us is divine. Then we wrongly assume (ὑποτάσσομεν) that a certain person has the power of conferring the greatest advantages; therefore he is something divine. For if we wrongly assume that a certain person has the power of conferring the greatest advantages, it is a necessary consequence that the conclusion from these premises must be false.
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶7, tr. George Long (1877)

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Anyone who can be blocked or forced by another person is not free, however high their rank, and our real masters are not rulers but the things we desire or dread losing, such as death, exile, property and office, because whoever controls those controls us. We even treat powerful people as gods only because we wrongly believe they hold the greatest goods.

Older wording

“fasces”
— bundles of rods carried before Roman magistrates as a sign of authority
“praetexta”
— the purple-bordered toga worn by Roman magistrates
“Saturnalia”
— a Roman festival when slaves enjoyed temporary liberties

Themes and situations

  • Freedom
  • What is in our control
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Ambition and success
  • Judgements and impressions
  • A difficult boss
  • Losing a job
  • Anxiety about the future

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