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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.4 ¶5 — Epictetus

From “To Those Who Are Desirous of Passing Life in Tranquillity”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶5

In short remember this, that what you shall prize which is beyond your will, so far you have destroyed your will. But these things are out of the power of the will, not only power (authority), but also a private condition: not only occupation (business), but also leisure.—“Now then must I live in this tumult?”—Why do you say tumult?—“I mean among many men.”—Well what is the hardship? Suppose that you are at Olympia: imagine it to be a panegyris (public assembly), where one is calling out one thing, another is doing another thing, and a third is pushing another person; in the baths there is a crowd: and who of us is not pleased with this assembly, and leaves it unwillingly? Be not difficult to please nor fastidious about what happens.—“Vinegar is disagreeable, for it is sharp; honey is disagreeable, for it disturbs my habit of body. I do not like vegetables. So also I do not like leisure; it is a desert: I do not like a crowd; it is confusion.”—But if circumstances make it necessary for you to live alone or with a few, call it quiet, and use the thing as you ought: talk with yourself, exercise the appearances (presented to you), work up your preconceptions. If you fall into a crowd, call it a celebration of games, a panegyris, a festival: try to enjoy the festival with other men. For what is a more pleasant sight to him who loves mankind than a number of men? We see with pleasure herds of horses or oxen: we are delighted when we see many ships: who is pained when he sees many men?—“But they deafen me with their cries.”—Then your hearing is impeded. What then is this to you? Is then the power of making use of appearances hindered? And who prevents you from using according to nature inclination to a thing and aversion from it; and movement towards a thing and movement from it? What tumult (confusion) is able to do this?
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶5, tr. George Long (1877)

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If circumstances force you into a crowd or into solitude, treat the crowd as a festival to enjoy and the solitude as quiet time to talk to yourself and practise your ideas. Noise only blocks your hearing, not your ability to use your judgement well, so do not be fussy about conditions you do not control.

Older wording

“panegyris”
— a public festival assembly
“fastidious”
— overly picky
“preconceptions”
— the basic ideas about good and bad that all people naturally hold

Themes and situations

  • Peace of mind
  • Solitude and retreat
  • Judgements and impressions
  • What is in our control
  • Emotions and the passions
  • Everyday irritations
  • Loneliness
  • Burnout and overwork

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