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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.5 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “Against the Quarrelsome and Ferocious”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.5 ¶2

“What then? would you have me to be despised?”—By whom? by those who know you? and how shall those who know you despise a man who is gentle and modest? Perhaps you mean by those who do not know you? What is that to you? For no other artisan cares for the opinion of those who know not his art.—“But they will be more hostile to me for this reason.”—Why do you say “me”? Can any man injure your will, or prevent you from using in a natural way the appearances which are presented to you? In no way can he. Why then are you still disturbed and why do you choose to show yourself afraid? And why do you not come forth and proclaim that you are at peace with all men whatever they may do, and laugh at those chiefly who think that they can harm you? These slaves, you can say, know not either who I am, nor where lies my good or my evil, because they have no access to the things which are mine.
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People who know you will not despise someone gentle and modest, and what people who do not know you think is no concern of yours, just as a craftsman ignores opinions from those who know nothing of his craft. Nobody can damage your will or stop you using your judgement well, so you can be at peace with everyone and smile at those who think they can harm you.

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“appearances”
— the impressions that present themselves to your mind
“will”
— your power of choice and judgement

Themes and situations

  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Insult and criticism
  • What is in our control
  • Courage
  • Peace of mind
  • Being criticised or insulted
  • Conflict at work

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