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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.17 — Diogenes Laërtius on Zeno

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.17

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on Zeno

When he was slowly picking his way across a watercourse, “With good reason,” quoth Zeno, “he looks askance at the mud, for he can’t see his face in it.” When a certain Cynic declared he had no oil in his flask and begged some of him, Zeno refused to give him any. However, as the man went away, Zeno bade him consider which of the two was the more impudent. Being enamoured of Chremonides, as he and Cleanthes were sitting beside the youth, he got up, and upon Cleanthes expressing surprise, “Good physicians tell us,” said he, “that the best cure for inflammation is repose.” When of two reclining next to each other over the wine, the one who was neighbour to Zeno kicked the guest below him, Zeno himself nudged the man with his knee, and upon the man turning round, inquired, “How do you think your neighbour liked what you did to him?”
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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.17 (on Zeno), tr. R. D. Hicks (1925)

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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book VII, tr. R. D. Hicks (Loeb, 1925). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences

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Short anecdotes showing Zeno's dry humour: a vain man avoids mud because he cannot see his own face in it, and a freeloader is told to judge which of them is the more shameless. Zeno gets up and moves away from a young man he is attracted to, treating distance as the cure, and makes a rude neighbour consider how his kick felt to the person who received it.

Older wording

“askance”
— with suspicion or disapproval
“impudent”
— shamelessly rude
“enamoured”
— in love or infatuated

Themes and situations

  • Self-discipline and habit
  • Pride and humility
  • Justice and fairness
  • Speech and silence
  • Breaking a bad habit
  • Everyday irritations

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