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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.170 — Diogenes Laërtius on Cleanthes

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.170

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on Cleanthes

And one day he produced a handful of small coin before his acquaintance and said, “Cleanthes could even maintain a second Cleanthes, if he liked, whereas those who possess the means to keep themselves yet seek to live at the expense of others, and that too though they have plenty of time to spare from their studies.” Hence Cleanthes was called a second Heracles. He had industry, but no natural aptitude for physics, and was extraordinarily slow. On which account Timon describes him thus: Who is this that like a bell-wether ranges over the ranks of men, a dullard, lover of verse, hailing from Assos, a mass of rock, unventuresome. And he used to put up with gibes from his fellowpupils and did not mind being called the ass, telling them that he alone was strong enough to carry the load of Zeno.
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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.170 (on Cleanthes), tr. R. D. Hicks (1925)

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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book VII, tr. R. D. Hicks (Loeb, 1925). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences

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Cleanthes showed a handful of coins to prove he could support himself, unlike wealthy students who lived off others. Though slow-witted and mocked by classmates as an ass, he took the jibe cheerfully, saying he alone was strong enough to carry the load of his teacher Zeno.

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“bell-wether”
— the lead sheep of a flock
“gibes”
— taunts, jeers
“dullard”
— a slow-witted person

Themes and situations

  • Insult and criticism
  • Resilience and endurance
  • Pride and humility
  • Wealth and poverty
  • Being criticised or insulted

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