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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.172 — Diogenes Laërtius on Cleanthes

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.172

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on Cleanthes

When some one inquired of him what lesson he ought to give his son, Cleanthes in reply quoted words from the Electra: Silence, silence, light be thy step. A Lacedaemonian having declared that toil was a good thing, he was overjoyed and said, Thou art of gentle blood, dear child. Dicit autem Hecato in Sententiis eum, cum adulescens quidam formosus dixisset, Si pulsans ventrem ventrizat, pulsans coxas coxizat, dixisse, Tibi habeas, adulescens, coxizationes: nempe vocabula quae conveniunt analogia non semper etiam significatione conveniunt. Once in conversation with a youth he put the question, “Do you see?” and when the youth nodded assent, he went on, “Why, then, don’t I see that you see?”
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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.172 (on Cleanthes), tr. R. D. Hicks (1925)

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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book VII, tr. R. D. Hicks (Loeb, 1925). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences

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Asked what to teach his son, Cleanthes answered with a line urging silence and a light step, meaning be quiet and unobtrusive. He was delighted by a Spartan who called toil good. An untranslated Latin aside points out that words that sound alike need not mean alike.

Older wording

“Lacedaemonian”
— a Spartan
“assent”
— agreement, acceptance as true

Themes and situations

  • Speech and silence
  • Self-discipline and habit
  • Family and love
  • Resilience and endurance
  • Parenting

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