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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On a Happy Life 19 ¶3 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On a Happy Life 19 ¶3

You argue about the life and death of another, and yelp at the name of men whom some peculiarly noble quality has rendered great, just as tiny curs do at the approach of strangers: for it is to your interest that no one should appear to be good, as if virtue in another were a reproach to all your crimes. You enviously compare the glories of others with your own dirty actions, and do not understand how greatly to your disadvantage it is to venture to do so: for if they who follow after virtue be greedy, lustful, and fond of power, what must you be, who hate the very name of virtue? You say that no one acts up to his professions, or lives according to the standard which he sets up in his discourses: what wonder, seeing that the words which they speak are brave, gigantic, and able to weather all the storms which wreck mankind, whereas they themselves are struggling to tear themselves away from crosses into which each one of you is driving his own nail. Yet men who are crucified hang from one single pole, but these who punish themselves are divided between as many crosses as they have lusts, but yet are given to evil speaking, and are so magnificent in their contempt of the vices of others that I should suppose that they had none of their own, were it not that some criminals when on the gibbet spit upon the spectators.
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People who sneer that nobody lives up to their ideals usually do so because another person's goodness feels like a reproach to their own faults, and their criticism comes from envy. Those who attack virtue are in worse shape than those who pursue it imperfectly, since they punish themselves on as many crosses as they have lusts.

Older wording

“gibbet”
— gallows
“curs”
— mean, snarling dogs

Themes and situations

  • Insult and criticism
  • Envy and comparison
  • Virtue and character
  • Being criticised or insulted
  • Envy and comparison

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