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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 5.17 ¶1–2 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 5.17 ¶1–2

The day would not be long enough for me to enumerate those who have pushed their ingratitude so far as to ruin their native land. It would be as vast a task to mention how often the State has been ungrateful to its best and most devoted lovers, although it has done no less wrong than it has suffered. It sent Camillus and Scipio into exile; even after the death of Catiline it exiled Cicero, destroyed his house, plundered his property, and did everything which Catiline would have done if victorious; Rutilius found his virtue rewarded with a hiding-place in Asia; to Cato the Roman people refused the praetorship, and persisted in refusing the consulship. We are ungrateful in public matters; and if every man asks himself, you will find that there is no one who has not some private ingratitude to complain of. Yet it is impossible that all men should complain, unless all were deserving of complaint, therefore all men are ungrateful. Are they ungrateful alone? nay, they are also all covetous, all spiteful, and all cowardly, especially those who appear daring; and, besides this, all men fawn upon the great, and all are impious. Yet you need not be angry with them; pardon them, for they are all mad. I do not wish to recall you to what is not proved, or to say, “See how ungrateful is youth! what young man, even if of innocent life, does not long for his father’s death? even if moderate in his desires, does not look forward to it? even if dutiful, does not think about it? How few there are who fear the death even of the best of wives, who do not even calculate the probabilities of it. Pray, what litigant, after having been successfully defended, retains any remembrance of so great a benefit for more than a few days?” All agree that no one dies without complaining. Who on his last day dares to say, “I’ve lived, I’ve done the task which Fortune set me.”
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Seneca, On Benefits 5.17 ¶1–2, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)

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Ingratitude is everywhere: even the state has exiled and robbed its best servants, and everyone can point to some private ingratitude they have suffered, though they have also committed it. Since all people share these flaws, the right response is to pardon them rather than be furious, and the passage ends by noting how few leave life content.

Older wording

“praetorship”
— the office of praetor, a senior Roman magistrate
“litigant”
— someone involved in a lawsuit

Themes and situations

  • Gratitude
  • Justice and fairness
  • Anger
  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • Exile and loss of home
  • Being treated unfairly
  • Betrayal

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