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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 6.32 ¶2 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 6.32 ¶2

Led away by his passion, he divulged all these crimes which, as emperor, he ought to have kept secret with as much care as he punished them, because the shame of some deeds asperses even him who avenges them. Afterwards, when by lapse of time shame took the place of anger in his mind, he lamented that he had not kept silence about matters which he had not learned until it was disgraceful to speak of them, and often used to exclaim, “None of these things would have happened to me, if either Agrippa or Maecenas had lived!” So hard was it for the master of so many thousands of men to repair the loss of two. When his legions were slaughtered, new ones were at once enrolled; when his fleet was wrecked, within a few days another was afloat; when the public buildings were consumed by fire, finer ones arose in their stead; but the places of Agrippa and Maecenas remained unfilled throughout his life. What am I to imagine? that there were not any men like these, who could take their place, or that it was the fault of Augustus himself, who preferred mourning for them to seeking for their likes? We have no reason for supposing that it was the habit of Agrippa or Maecenas to speak the truth to him; indeed, if they had lived they would have been as great dissemblers as the rest. It is one of the habits of kings to insult their present servants by praising those whom they have lost, and to attribute the virtue of truthful speaking to those from whom there is no further risk of hearing it.
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Seneca, On Benefits 6.32 ¶2, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)

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In his anger Augustus announced his family's disgrace to the world, and once the anger faded he regretted not keeping quiet. He also mourned two lost advisers more than lost armies and fleets, though they would probably have flattered him like everyone else, and the powerful often praise the absent as a way of belittling those at hand.

Older wording

“divulged”
— revealed publicly
“asperses”
— tarnishes or slanders
“dissemblers”
— people who hide their real thoughts

Themes and situations

  • Anger
  • Speech and silence
  • Leadership and power
  • Friendship
  • Being angry with someone
  • Family conflict

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