Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
On Duties 1.38 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
Translation by Walter Miller (1913)
Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 1.38
But when a war is fought out for supremacy and when glory is the object of war, it must still not fail to start from the same motives which I said a moment ago were the only righteous grounds for going to war. But those wars which have glory for their end must be carried on with less bitterness. For we contend, for example, with a fellow-citizen in one way, if he is a personal enemy, in another, if he is a rival: with the rival it is a struggle for office and position, with the enemy for life and honour. So with the Celtiberians and the Cimbrians we fought as with deadly enemies, not to determine which should be supreme, but which should survive; but with the Latins, Sabines, Samnites, Carthaginians, and Pyrrhus we fought for supremacy. The Carthaginians violated treaties; Hannibal was cruel; the others were more merciful. From Pyrrhus we have this famous speech on the exchange of prisoners: "Gold will I none, nor price shall ye give; for I ask none; Come, let us not be chaff'rers of war, but warriors embattled. Nay; let us venture our lives, and the sword, not gold, weigh the outcome. Make we the trial by valour in arms and see if Dame Fortune Wills it that ye shall prevail or I, or what be her judgment. Hear thou, too, this word, good Fabricius: whose valour soever Spared hath been by the fortune of war-their freedom I grant them. Such my resolve. I give and present them to you, my brave Romans; Take them back to their homes; the great gods' blessings attend you." A right kingly sentiment this and worthy a scion of the Aeacidae.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 1.38, tr. Walter Miller (1913)
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In plain English
AI-written notesEven wars fought for glory should start from legitimate grounds, but they should be fought with less bitterness than wars of survival, because a rival competing for position is different from an enemy threatening your life. The passage closes with an enemy king's chivalrous speech releasing prisoners without ransom.
Older wording
- “scion”
- — a descendant of a noble line
- “Aeacidae”
- — the royal family claiming descent from Aeacus
Themes and situations
- Ambition and success
- Anger
- Justice and fairness
- Leadership and power
- Conflict at work
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