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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

On Duties 1.71 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

Translation by Walter Miller (1913)

Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 1.71

So perhaps those men of extraordinary genius who have devoted themselves to learning must be excused for not taking part in public affairs; likewise, those who from ill-health or for some still more valid reason have retired from the service of the state and left to others the opportunity and the glory of its administration. But if those who have no such excuse profess a scorn for civil and military offices, which most people admire, I think that this should be set down not to their credit but to their discredit; for in so far as they care little, as they say, for glory and count it as naught, it is difficult not to sympathize with their attitude; in reality, however, they seem to dread the toil and trouble and also, perhaps, the discredit and humiliation of political failure and defeat. For there are people who in opposite circumstances do not act consistently: they have the utmost contempt for pleasure, but in pain they are too sensitive; they are indifferent to glory, but they are crushed by disgrace; and even in their inconsistency they show no great consistency.
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Withdrawal from public life is excusable for genius, illness or other good reasons, but pretended scorn for office and glory often masks fear of the work and the humiliation of failure. People who claim to despise glory yet are crushed by disgrace are being inconsistent.

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“discredit”
— loss of reputation, disgrace

Themes and situations

  • Ambition and success
  • Courage
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Virtue and character
  • Fear of failure
  • A career setback

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