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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On the Firmness of the Wise Person 7 ¶2 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On the Firmness of the Wise Person 7 ¶2

“If,” says our adversary, “Socrates was unjustly condemned, he received an injury.” At this point it is needful for us to bear in mind that it is possible for someone to do an injury to me, and yet for me not to receive it, as if anyone were to steal something from my country-house and leave it in my town-house, that man would commit a theft, yet I should lose nothing. A man may become mischievous, and yet do no actual mischief: if a man lies with his own wife as if she were a stranger, he will commit adultery, but his wife will not; if a man gives me poison and the poison lose its strength when mixed with food, that man, by administering the poison, has made himself a criminal, even though he has done no hurt. A man is no less a brigand because his sword becomes entangled in his victim’s clothes and misses its mark. All crimes, as far as concerns their criminality, are completed before the actual deed is accomplished. Some crimes are of such a nature and bound by such conditions that the first part can take place without the second, though the second cannot take place without the first. I will endeavour to explain these words: I can move my feet and yet not run; but I cannot run without moving my feet. I can be in the water without swimming; but if I swim, I cannot help being in the water. The matter of which we are treating is of this character: if I have received an injury, it is necessary that someone must have done it to me; but if an injury has been done me, it is not necessary that I should have received one; for many circumstances may intervene to avert the injury, as, for example, some chance may strike the hand that is aiming at us, and the dart, after it has been thrown, may swerve aside. So injuries of all kinds may by certain circumstances be thrown back and intercepted in mid-course, so that they may be done and yet not received.
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Someone can do wrong to you without it landing as an injury to you: a theft that leaves you with nothing lost, or a poison that loses its strength. The wrongdoer's guilt is complete in the attempt, but harm depends on what actually reaches you.

Older wording

“brigand”
— a robber or bandit

Themes and situations

  • Judgements and impressions
  • Justice and fairness
  • What is in our control
  • Insult and criticism

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