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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

To Marcia, on Consolation 15 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, To Marcia, on Consolation 15

Why need I remind you of the deaths of the other Caesars, whom Fortune appears to me sometimes to have outraged in order that even by their deaths they might be useful to mankind, by proving that not even they, although they were styled “sons of gods,” and “fathers of gods to come,” could exercise the same power over their own fortunes which they did over those of others? The Emperor Augustus lost his children and his grandchildren, and after all the family of Caesar had perished was obliged to prop his empty house by adopting a son: yet he bore his losses as bravely as though he were already personally concerned in the honour of the gods, and as though it were especially to his interest that no one should complain of the injustice of Heaven. Tiberius Caesar lost both the son whom he begot and the son whom he adopted, yet he himself pronounced a panegyric upon his son from the Rostra, and stood in full view of the corpse, which merely had a curtain on one side to prevent the eyes of the high priest resting upon the dead body, and did not change his countenance, though all the Romans wept: he gave Sejanus, who stood by his side, a proof of how patiently he could endure the loss of his relatives. See you not what numbers of most eminent men there have been, none of whom have been spared by this blight which prostrates us all: men, too, adorned with every grace of character, and every distinction that public or private life can confer. It appears as though this plague moved in a regular orbit, and spread ruin and desolation among us all without distinction of persons, all being alike its prey. Bid any number of individuals tell you the story of their lives: you will find that all have paid some penalty for being born.
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Even emperors, called sons of gods, could not command their own fortunes: Augustus lost his children and grandchildren yet bore it calmly, and Tiberius gave a eulogy for his son without changing expression. Loss strikes regardless of rank, and anyone's life story will show they have paid some price for being born.

Older wording

“panegyric”
— a formal speech of praise
“Rostra”
— the speakers' platform in the Roman Forum

Themes and situations

  • Grief and mourning
  • Acceptance and fate
  • Change and impermanence
  • Leadership and power
  • Resilience and endurance
  • Bereavement

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