Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE
To Marcia, on Consolation 7 — Seneca
Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)
Seneca, To Marcia, on Consolation 7
“But,” say you, “sorrow for the loss of one’s own children is natural.” Who denies it? provided it be reasonable? for we cannot help feeling a pang, and the stoutest-hearted of us are cast down not only at the death of those dearest to us, but even when they leave us on a journey. Nevertheless, the mourning which public opinion enjoins is more than nature insists upon. Observe how intense and yet how brief are the sorrows of dumb animals: we hear a cow lowing for one or two days, nor do mares pursue their wild and senseless gallops for longer: wild beasts after they have tracked their lost cubs throughout the forest, and often visited their plundered dens, quench their rage within a short space of time. Birds circle round their empty nests with loud and piteous cries, yet almost immediately resume their ordinary flight in silence; nor does any creature spend long periods in sorrowing for the loss of its offspring, except man, who encourages his own grief, the measure of which depends not upon his sufferings, but upon his will. You may know that to be utterly broken down by grief is not natural, by observing that the same bereavement inflicts a deeper wound upon women than upon men, upon savages than upon civilized and cultivated persons, upon the unlearned than upon the learned: yet those passions which derive their force from nature are equally powerful in all men: therefore it is clear that a passion of varying strength cannot be a natural one. Fire will burn all people equally, male and female, of every rank and every age: steel will exhibit its cutting power on all bodies alike: and why? Because these things derive their strength from nature, which makes no distinction of persons. Poverty, grief, and ambition, are felt differently by different people, according as they are influenced by habit: a rooted prejudice about the terrors of these things, though they are not really to be feared, makes a man weak and unable to endure them.
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Seneca, To Marcia, on Consolation 7, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1889)
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AI-written notesSome pang at loss is natural, but most of the length and intensity of mourning comes from social expectation and our own will, not from nature. Animals grieve their young briefly and move on, and because natural forces like fire burn everyone alike while grief varies with upbringing and belief, its excess must come from opinion and habit.
Older wording
- “enjoins”
- — commands, requires
- “dumb animals”
- — animals that cannot speak
Themes and situations
- Grief and mourning
- Judgements and impressions
- Emotions and the passions
- Nature and the cosmos
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Bereavement
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