Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE
To Polybius, on Consolation 5 ¶1 — Seneca
Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)
Seneca, To Polybius, on Consolation 5 ¶1
It will also be no small assistance to you to consider that there is no one to whom your grief is more offensive than he upon whom it is nominally bestowed: he either does not wish you to suffer or does not understand why you suffer. There is, therefore, no reason for a service which is useless if it is not felt by him who is the object of it, and which is displeasing to him if it is. I can boldly affirm that there is no one in the whole world who derives any pleasure from your tears. What then? do you suppose that your brother has a feeling against you which no one else has, that he wishes you to be injured by your self-torture, that he desires to separate you from the business of your life, that is, from philosophy and from Caesar? that is not likely: for he always gave way to you as a brother, respected you as a parent, courted you as a superior. He wishes to be fondly remembered by you, but not to be a source of agony to you. Why, then, should you insist upon pining away with a grief which, if the dead have any feelings, your brother wishes to bring to an end? If it were any other brother about whose affection there could be any question, I should put all this vaguely, and say, “If your brother wishes you to be tortured with endless mourning, he does not deserve such affection: if he does not wish it, dismiss the grief which affects you both: an unnatural brother ought not, a good brother would not wish to be so mourned for,” but with one whose brotherly love has been so clearly proved, we may be quite sure that nothing could hurt him more than that you should be hurt by his loss, that it should agonize you, that your eyes, most undeserving as they are of such a fate, should be by the same cause continually filled and drained of never-ceasing tears.
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Seneca, To Polybius, on Consolation 5 ¶1, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1889)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/to-polybius-on-consolation/5.1
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In plain English
AI-written notesYour lost loved one would be pained, not pleased, to see you destroying yourself with endless mourning. Honour them by remembering them fondly rather than by suffering, because someone who loved you would not want your sorrow. Asking what they would actually want can loosen the grip of guilty grief.
Older wording
- “nominally”
- — in name only
- “pining”
- — wasting away from longing
Themes and situations
- Grief and mourning
- Family and love
- Kindness and forgiveness
- Acceptance and fate
- Bereavement
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