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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶52–59 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

From “On the Contempt of Death”

Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)

Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶52–59

M. Because, if to die were miserable to the dead, to live would be a kind of infinite and eternal misery. Now, however, I see a goal, and when I have reached it, there is nothing more to be feared. But you seem to me to follow the opinion of Epicharmus, a man of some discernment, and sharp enough for a Sicilian. A. What opinion? for I do not recollect it. M. I will tell you if I can in Latin, for you know I am no more used to bring in Latin sentences in a Greek discourse than Greek in a Latin one. A. And that is right enough. But what is that opinion of Epicharmus? M. I would not die, but yet Am not concerned that I shall be dead. A. I now recollect the Greek. But since you have obliged me to grant that the dead are not miserable, proceed to convince me that it is not miserable to be under a necessity of dying. M. That is easy enough, but I have greater things in hand. A. How comes that to be so easy? And what are those things of more consequence?
— Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶52–59 · tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)Read in context →

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If being dead were miserable, then living would be an endless misery, whereas death is a finish line beyond which nothing is left to fear. The line quoted from Epicharmus captures the right attitude: no wish to die, but no worry about being dead.

Themes and situations

  • Death and mortality
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Acceptance and fate
  • Fear of death

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