Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 2 ¶46 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “On Bearing Pain”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 2 ¶46
Will you, when you may observe children at Lacedaemon, and young men at Olympia, and barbarians in the amphitheatre, receive the severest wounds, and bear them without once opening their mouths—will you, I say, if any pain should by chance attack you, cry out like a woman? Will you not rather bear it with resolution and constancy? and not cry, “It is intolerable; nature cannot bear it!” I hear what you say: Boys bear this because they are led thereto by glory; some bear it through shame, many through fear, and yet are we afraid that nature cannot bear what is borne by many, and in such different circumstances? Nature not only bears it, but challenges it, for there is nothing with her preferable, nothing which she desires more than credit, and reputation, and praise, and honor, and glory. I choose here to describe this one thing under many names, and I have used many that you may have the clearer idea of it. For what I mean to say is that whatever is desirable of itself, proceeding from virtue, or placed in virtue, and commendable on its own account (which I would rather agree to call the only good than deny it to be the chief good) is what men should prefer above all things. And as we declare this to be the case with respect to honesty, so we speak in the contrary manner of infamy: nothing is so odious, so detestable, nothing so unworthy of a man. And if you are thoroughly convinced of this (for, at the beginning of this discourse, you allowed that there appeared to you more evil in infamy than in pain), it follows that you ought to have the command over yourself—though I scarcely know how this expression may seem an accurate one, which appears to represent man as made up of two natures, so that one should be in command and the other be subject to it.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 2 ¶46, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesIf children, athletes and gladiators can bear severe wounds in silence, nature must be able to bear pain, and what carries them is the pull of honor, reputation and virtue. Anyone who values honor above disgrace should be able to govern themselves, though the passage notes the odd phrase of commanding yourself implies two parts of a person.
Older wording
- “Lacedaemon”
- — Sparta
- “constancy”
- — steadiness
Themes and situations
- Courage
- Resilience and endurance
- Self-discipline and habit
- Virtue and character
- Illness or diagnosis
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