Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶19 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “On Grief of Mind”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶19
A man of courage is also full of faith. I do not use the word “confident,” because, owing to an erroneous custom of speaking, that word has come to be used in a bad sense, though it is derived from “confiding,” which is commendable. But he who is full of faith is certainly under no fear, for there is an inconsistency between faith and fear. Now, whoever is subject to grief is subject to fear, for whatever things we grieve at when present we dread when hanging over us and approaching. Thus it comes about that grief is inconsistent with courage. It is very probable, therefore, that whoever is subject to grief is also liable to fear, and to a broken kind of spirits and sinking. Now, whenever these befall a man, he is in a servile state, and must own that he is overpowered; for whoever admits these feelings, must admit timidity and cowardice. But these cannot enter into the mind of a man of courage; neither, therefore, can grief. But the man of courage is the only wise man, therefore grief cannot befall the wise man. It is, besides, necessary that whoever is brave should be a man of great soul, that whoever is a man of a great soul should be invincible, whoever is invincible looks down with contempt on all things here and considers them beneath him. But no one can despise those things on account of which he may be affected with grief, from whence it follows that a wise man is never affected with grief: for all wise men are brave, therefore a wise man is not subject to grief. And as the eye, when disordered, is not in a good condition for performing its office properly; and as the other parts, and the whole body itself, when unsettled, cannot perform their office and business; so the mind, when disordered, is but ill-fitted to perform its duty. The office of the mind is to use its reason well, but the mind of a wise man is always in condition to make the best use of his reason, and therefore is never out of order. But grief is a disorder of the mind, therefore a wise man will be always free from it.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶19, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesThe Stoic argument chains together courage, fearlessness and wisdom to conclude that a wise person cannot be subject to grief, since grief goes with fear and a broken spirit, which cannot live in a great-souled mind that looks down on worldly things. A disordered mind also cannot do its job of reasoning, so a wise mind, always ready to reason well, is never disordered.
Older wording
- “invincible”
- — impossible to defeat
- “timidity”
- — fearfulness
Themes and situations
- Grief and mourning
- Courage
- Fear and anxiety
- Emotions and the passions
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