Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶36 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “Whether Virtue Alone Be Sufficient for a Happy Life”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶36
Though Zeno the Cittiaean, a stranger and an inconsiderable coiner of words, appears to have insinuated himself into the old philosophy; still, the prevalence of this opinion is due to the authority of Plato, who often makes use of this expression, “that nothing but virtue can be entitled to the name of good,” agreeably to what Socrates says in Plato’s Gorgias. For it is there related that when someone asked him if he did not think Archelaus the son of Perdiccas, who was then looked upon as a most fortunate person, a very happy man, “I do not know,” replied he, “for I never conversed with him.” “What? is there no other way you can know it by?” “None at all.” “You cannot, then, pronounce of the great king of the Persians whether he is happy or not?” “How can I, when I do not know how learned or how good a man he is?” “What? do you imagine that a happy life depends on that?” “My opinion entirely is, that good men are happy, and the wicked miserable.” “Is Archelaus, then, miserable?” “Certainly, if unjust.” Now, does it not appear to you that he is here placing the whole of a happy life in virtue alone? But what does the same man say in his funeral oration? “For,” said he, “whoever has everything that relates to a happy life so entirely dependent on himself as not to be connected with the good or bad fortune of another, and not to be affected by, or made in any degree uncertain by, what befalls another; and whoever is such a one has acquired the best rule of living; he is that moderate, that brave, that wise man, who submits to the gain and loss of everything, and especially of his children, and obeys that old precept. For he will never be too joyful or too sad, because he depends entirely upon himself.”
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶36, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesJudging someone happy by their wealth or power is a mistake, since happiness depends on how good and just a person is, and Archelaus the fortunate king would be miserable if unjust. The ideal is a person whose happiness rests wholly on themselves, untouched by another's good or bad luck, who accepts gain or loss of everything, even children, and is never too joyful or too sad.
Older wording
- “inconsiderable”
- — unimportant
- “coiner of words”
- — someone who invents new terms
- “insinuated”
- — slipped in gradually
Themes and situations
- Virtue and character
- What is in our control
- Acceptance and fate
- Peace of mind
- Grief and mourning
- Envy and comparison
- Bereavement
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