St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922
A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶3 — St. George Stock (modern guide)
From “Logic”
Original English text (1908)
St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶3
Logic as a whole being divided into rhetoric and dialectic: rhetoric was defined to be the knowledge of how to speak well in expository discourses and dialectic as the knowledge of how to argue rightly in matters of question and answer. Both rhetoric and dialectic were spoken of by the Stoics as virtues for they divided virtue in its most generic sense in the same way as they divided philosophy into physical, ethical, and logical. Rhetoric and dialectic were thus the two species of logical virtue. Zeno expressed their difference by comparing rhetoric to the palm and dialectic to the fist.
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In plain English
AI-written notesLogic divided into rhetoric, the skill of speaking well at length, and dialectic, the skill of arguing well in question and answer. Both counted as virtues, and Zeno compared rhetoric to an open palm and dialectic to a closed fist.
Older wording
- “dialectic”
- — the art of reasoned argument by question and answer
- “expository discourses”
- — extended explanatory speeches
Themes and situations
- Speech and silence
- Learning and progress
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