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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 1.11 ¶4 — Epictetus

From “Of Natural Affection”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 1.11 ¶4

“Do I convince you of this or not?” “You do convince me.” “Such then as the causes are in each case, such also are the effects. When then we are doing anything not rightly, from this day we shall impute it to nothing else than to the will (δόγμα or opinion) from which we have done it: and it is that which we shall endeavor to take away and to extirpate more than the tumours and abscesses out of the body. And in like manner we shall give the same account of the cause of the things which we do right; and we shall no longer allege as causes of any evil to us, either slave or neighbour, or wife or children, being persuaded that if we do not think things to be what we do think them to be, we do not the acts which follow from such opinions; and as to thinking or not thinking, that is in our power and not in externals.” “It is so,” he said. “From this day then we shall inquire into and examine nothing else, what its quality is, or its state, neither land nor slaves nor horses nor dogs, nothing else than opinions.” “I hope so.” You see then that you must become a Scholasticus, an animal whom all ridicule, if you really intend to make an examination of your own opinions: and that this is not the work of one hour or day, you know yourself.
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.11 ¶4, tr. George Long (1877)

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When we act badly, we should blame the opinion behind the act and work to remove it, rather than blaming a neighbour, spouse, child or circumstance. Whether we think a thing is terrible is in our power, so the useful study is our own opinions, and that is slow, unglamorous work that may even make us look ridiculous.

Older wording

“externals”
— things outside your own mind and choices
“extirpate”
— root out completely
“Scholasticus”
— a bookish student of philosophy, a figure of fun

Themes and situations

  • Judgements and impressions
  • What is in our control
  • Learning and progress
  • Anger
  • Being angry with someone
  • Family conflict

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