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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.18 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “How We Should Struggle Against Appearances”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.18 ¶3

In this manner certainly, as philosophers say, also diseases of the mind grow up. For when you have once desired money, if reason be applied to lead to a perception of the evil, the desire is stopped, and the ruling faculty of our mind is restored to the original authority. But if you apply no means of cure, it no longer returns to the same state, but being again excited by the corresponding appearance, it is inflamed to desire quicker than before: and when this takes place continually, it is henceforth hardened (made callous), and the disease of the mind confirms the love of money. For he who has had a fever, and has been relieved from it, is not in the same state that he was before, unless he has been completely cured. Something of the kind happens also in diseases of the soul. Certain traces and blisters are left in it, and unless a man shall completely efface them, when he is again lashed on the same places, the lash will produce not blisters (weals) but sores. If then you wish not to be of an angry temper, do not feed the habit: throw nothing on it which will increase it: at first keep quiet, and count the days on which you have not been angry. I used to be in passion every day; now every second day; then every third, then every fourth. But if you have intermitted thirty days, make a sacrifice to God. For the habit at first begins to be weakened, and then is completely destroyed. “I have not been vexed today, nor the day after, nor yet on any succeeding day during two or three months; but I took care when some exciting things happened.” Be assured that you are in a good way. Today when I saw a handsome person, I did not say to myself, “I wish I could lie with her,” and happy is her husband; for he who says this says, “Happy is her adulterer also.” Nor do I picture the rest to my mind: the woman present, and stripping herself and lying down by my side. I stroke my head and say, “Well done, Epictetus, you have solved a fine little sophism, much finer than that which is called the master sophism.” And if even the woman is willing, and gives signs, and sends messages, and if she also fondle me and come close to me, and I should abstain and be victorious, that would be a sophism beyond that which is named the Liar, and the Quiescent. Over such a victory as this a man may justly be proud; not for proposing the master sophism.
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Mental habits such as anger, craving money or sexual temptation harden over time unless you treat them like a disease and break the cycle: stay quiet at first, count the days you stay calm, and take each small victory seriously. The speaker describes going from angry every day to every second day, then every third, and treats resisting a tempting thought as a bigger win than solving a clever logic puzzle.

Older wording

“ruling faculty”
— your reasoning mind
“master sophism”
— a famous logic puzzle
“appearance”
— the impression something makes on your mind

Themes and situations

  • Self-discipline and habit
  • Anger
  • Desire and craving
  • Wealth and poverty
  • Learning and progress
  • Breaking a bad habit
  • Being angry with someone
  • Money, status and wanting more

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