Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 2.2 ¶4 — Epictetus
From “Of Tranquillity (Freedom from Perturbation)”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 2.2 ¶4
For what do you think? do you think that, if Socrates had wished to preserve externals, he would have come forward and said: “Anytus and Melitus can certainly kill me, but to harm me they are not able?” Was he so foolish as not to see that this way leads not to the preservation of life and fortune, but to another end? What is the reason then that he takes no account of his adversaries, and even irritates them? Just in the same way my friend Heraclitus, who had a little suit in Rhodes about a bit of land, and had proved to the judges (δικασταῖς) that his case was just, said when he had come to the peroration of his speech, I will neither entreat you nor do I care what judgment you will give, and it is you rather than I who are on your trial. And thus he ended the business. What need was there of this? Only do not entreat; but do not also say “I do not entreat,” unless there is a fit occasion to irritate purposely the judges, as was the case with Socrates. And you, if you are preparing such a peroration, why do you wait, why do you obey the order to submit to trial? For if you wish to be crucified, wait and the cross will come: but if you choose to submit and to plead your cause as well as you can, you must do what is consistent with this object, provided you maintain what is your own (your proper character).
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.2 ¶4, tr. George Long (1877)
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In plain English
AI-written notesIf your priority is keeping your life and fortune, defiance in court is a foolish tactic; Socrates and Heraclitus spoke boldly before judges because they cared more for their integrity than for the verdict. Do not stage defiance unless it truly serves your purpose, and once you choose to plead your case, act consistently with that aim while keeping your character.
Older wording
- “peroration”
- — the closing part of a speech
- “entreat”
- — beg or plead with
- “δικασταῖς”
- — judges or jurors
Themes and situations
- Courage
- Virtue and character
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Speech and silence
- Being treated unfairly
- Nerves before a big moment
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