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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.21 ¶1 — Epictetus

From “Of Inconsistency”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.21 ¶1

Some things men readily confess, and other things they do not. No one then will confess that he is a fool or without understanding; but quite the contrary you will hear all men saying, “I wish that I had fortune equal to my understanding.” But men readily confess that they are timid, and they say: “I am rather timid, I confess; but as to other respects you will not find me to be foolish.” A man will not readily confess that he is intemperate; and that he is unjust, he will not confess at all. He will by no means confess that he is envious or a busybody. Most men will confess that they are compassionate. What then is the reason?—The chief thing (the ruling thing) is inconsistency and confusion in the things which relate to good and evil. But different men have different reasons; and generally what they imagine to be base, they do not confess at all. But they suppose timidity to be a characteristic of a good disposition, and compassion also; but silliness to be the absolute characteristic of a slave. And they do not at all admit (confess) the things which are offenses against society. But in the case of most errors for this reason chiefly they are induced to confess them, because they imagine that there is something involuntary in them as in timidity and compassion; and if a man confess that he is in any respect intemperate, he alleges love (or passion) as an excuse for what is involuntary. But men do not imagine injustice to be at all involuntary. There is also in jealousy, as they suppose, something involuntary; and for this reason they confess to jealousy also.
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People readily admit faults they think are excusable, such as timidity, compassion or jealousy, because these feel involuntary, but almost never admit to being foolish, unjust, envious or meddling, because those seem shameful. The root problem is confusion about what is truly good and bad, so look honestly at which faults you refuse to confess.

Older wording

“intemperate”
— lacking self-control
“busybody”
— someone who meddles in others' affairs

Themes and situations

  • Pride and humility
  • Virtue and character
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Learning and progress

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