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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.8 ¶1 — Epictetus

From “What Is the Nature (Ἡ Οὐσία) of the Good”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.8 ¶1

God is beneficial. But the Good also is beneficial. It is consistent then that where the nature of God is, there also the nature of the good should be. What then is the nature of God? Flesh? “Certainly not.” An estate in land? “By no means.” Fame? “No.” Is it intelligence, knowledge, right reason? “Yes.” Herein then simply seek the nature of the good; for I suppose that you do not seek it in a plant. “No.” Do you seek it in an irrational animal? “No.” If then you seek it in a rational animal, why do you still seek it anywhere except in the superiority of rational over irrational animals? Now plants have not even the power of using appearances, and for this reason you do not apply the term good to them. The good then requires the use of appearances. Does it require this use only? For if you say that it requires this use only, say that the good, and that happiness and unhappiness are in irrational animals also. But you do not say this, and you do right; for if they possess even in the highest degree the use of appearances, yet they have not the faculty of understanding the use of appearances; and there is good reason for this, for they exist for the purpose of serving others, and they exercise no superiority. For the ass, I suppose, does not exist for any superiority over others. No; but because we had need of a back which is able to bear something; and in truth we had need also of his being able to walk, and for this reason he received also the faculty of making use of appearances, for otherwise he would not have been able to walk. And here then the matter stopped. For if he had also received the faculty of comprehending the use of appearances, it is plain that consistently with reason he would not then have been subjected to us, nor would he have done us these services, but he would have been equal to us and like to us.
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Since God is beneficial and is intelligence and right reason, not flesh, property or fame, the good must be sought in reasoning well and not in outside things. Plants and animals use impressions but cannot understand how they use them, which is why goodness and happiness belong only to rational beings.

Older wording

“appearances”
— impressions, the way things strike your mind
“irrational animal”
— an animal that cannot reason

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  • Virtue and character
  • Nature and the cosmos

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