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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.1 ¶5 — Epictetus

From “About Freedom”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶5

Now consider in the case of animals, how we employ the notion of liberty. Men keep tame lions shut up, and feed them, and some take them about; and who will say that this lion is free? Is it not the fact that the more he lives at his ease, so much the more he is in a slavish condition? and who if he had perception and reason would wish to be one of these lions? Well, these birds when they are caught and are kept shut up, how much do they suffer in their attempts to escape? and some of them die of hunger rather than submit to such a kind of life. And as many of them as live, hardly live and with suffering pine away; and if they ever find any opening, they make their escape. So much do they desire their natural liberty, and to be independent and free from hindrance. And what harm is there to you in this? What do you say? I am formed by nature to fly where I choose, to live in the open air, to sing when I choose: you deprive me of all this, and say, what harm is it to you? For this reason we shall say that those animals only are free which cannot endure capture, but as soon as they are caught escape from captivity by death. So Diogenes also somewhere says that there is only one way to freedom, and that is to die content: and he writes to the Persian king. “You cannot enslave the Athenian state any more than you can enslave fishes.” How is that? cannot I catch them? “If you catch them,” says Diogenes, “they will immediately leave you, as fishes do; for if you catch a fish, it dies; and if these men that are caught shall die, of what use to you is the preparation for war?” These are the words of a free man who had carefully examined the thing, and, as was natural, had discovered it. But if you look for it in a different place from where it is, what wonder if you never find it?
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶5, tr. George Long (1877)

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Caged animals show that the desire for liberty is natural: a tame lion that lives at ease is the more enslaved for it, and wild birds will starve themselves rather than accept captivity. The passage uses this to argue that a free being cannot be held, and it closes on the idea that the one road to freedom is to die content.

Older wording

“slavish condition”
— a state of dependence like a slave's

Themes and situations

  • Freedom
  • Death and mortality
  • Courage
  • Virtue and character
  • Nature and the cosmos