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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.12 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “On Attention”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.12 ¶2

To what things then ought I to attend? First to those general (principles) and to have them in readiness, and without them not to sleep, not to rise, not to drink, not to eat, not to converse (associate) with men: that no man is master of another man’s will, but that in the will alone is the good and the bad. No man then has the power either to procure for me any good or to involve me in any evil, but I alone myself over myself have power in these things. When then these things are secured to me, why need I be disturbed about external things? What tyrant is formidable, what disease, what poverty, what offense (from any man)? Well, I have not pleased a certain person. Is he then (the pleasing of him) my work, my judgment? No. Why then should I trouble myself about him?—But he is supposed to be someone (of importance).—He will look to that himself; and those who think so will also. But I have one whom I ought to please, to whom I ought to subject myself, whom I ought to obey, God and those who are next to him. He has placed me with myself, and has put my will in obedience to myself alone, and has given me rules for the right use of it; and when I follow these rules in syllogisms, I do not care for any man who says anything else (different): in sophistical argument, I care for no man. Why then in greater matters do those annoy me who blame me? What is the cause of this perturbation? Nothing else than because in this matter (topic) I am not disciplined. For all knowledge (science) despises ignorance and the ignorant; and not only the sciences, but even the arts. Produce any shoemaker that you please, and he ridicules the many in respect to his own work (business). Produce any carpenter.
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.12 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)

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Keep a few basic principles ready at all times, above all that nobody can control another person's will and that good and bad lie only in your own choices. Then displeasing someone or being blamed loses its sting, and if blame still upsets you, it just shows you have not trained yet in that area, the way experts brush off the ignorant in their own field.

Older wording

“syllogisms”
— formal logical arguments
“sophistical argument”
— tricky, misleading reasoning
“perturbation”
— emotional turmoil

Themes and situations

  • What is in our control
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Insult and criticism
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Peace of mind
  • Being criticised or insulted

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