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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.8 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “Against Those Who Hastily Rush Into the Use of the Philosophic Dress”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.8 ¶3

But even the philosophers themselves as they are called pursue the thing (philosophy) by beginning with things which are common to them and others: as soon as they have assumed a cloak and grown a beard, they say, “I am a philosopher.” But no man will say, “I am a musician,” if he has bought a plectrum (fiddlestick) and a lute: nor will he say, “I am a smith,” if he has put on a cap and apron. But the dress is fitted to the art; and they take their name from the art, and not from the dress. For this reason Euphrates used to say well, “A long time I strove to be a philosopher without people knowing it; and this,” he said, “was useful to me: for first I knew that when I did anything well, I did not do it for the sake of the spectators, but for the sake of myself: I ate well for the sake of myself; I had my countenance well composed and my walk: all for myself and for God. Then, as I struggled alone, so I alone also was in danger. In no respect through me, if I did anything base or unbecoming, was philosophy endangered; nor did I injure the many by doing anything wrong as a philosopher. For this reason those who did not know my purpose used to wonder how it was that while I conversed and lived altogether with all philosophers, I was not a philosopher myself. And what was the harm for me to be known to be a philosopher by my acts and not by outward marks?” See how I eat, how I drink, how I sleep, how I bear and forbear, how I cooperate, how I employ desire, how I employ aversion (turning from things), how I maintain the relations (to things) those which are natural or those which are acquired, how free from confusion, how free from hindrance. Judge of me from this, if you can. But if you are so deaf and blind that you cannot conceive even Hephaestus to be a good smith, unless you see the cap on his head, what is the harm in not being recognized by so foolish a judge?
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.8 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)

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Practise your values quietly, doing things well for your own sake and not for an audience, and let people judge you by how you actually eat, sleep, desire, avoid and treat others. Going unrecognised costs nothing, and if someone cannot see your quality without a costume, their judgement is not worth worrying about.

Older wording

“aversion”
— turning away from what you want to avoid
“plectrum”
— a small pick for plucking a lute

Themes and situations

  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Pride and humility
  • Virtue and character
  • Learning and progress

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