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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Anger 2.9 ¶3 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On Anger 2.9 ¶3

And how small a part of men’s crimes are these! The poet has not described one people divided into two hostile camps, parents and children enrolled on opposite sides, Rome set on fire by the hand of a Roman, troops of fierce horsemen scouring the country to track out the hiding-places of the proscribed, wells defiled with poison, plagues created by human hands, trenches dug by children round their beleaguered parents, crowded prisons, conflagrations that consume whole cities, gloomy tyrannies, secret plots to establish despotisms and ruin peoples, and men glorying in those deeds which, as long as it was possible to repress them, were counted as crimes—I mean rape, debauchery, and lust… Add to these, public acts of national bad faith, broken treaties, everything that cannot defend itself carried off as plunder by the stronger, knaveries, thefts, frauds, and disownings of debt such as three of our present law-courts would not suffice to deal with. If you want the wise man to be as angry as the atrocity of men’s crimes requires, he must not merely be angry, but must go mad with rage.
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The verse covers only a tiny fraction of human crime; add civil war, proscriptions, poisoned wells, tyrannies, broken treaties and fraud, and a wise person responding with matching anger would go mad with rage. Anger is therefore not a sane response to the world's wickedness. The text has a gap partway through.

Older wording

“proscribed”
— officially listed for execution and seizure of property
“knaveries”
— dishonest tricks
“debauchery”
— excessive indulgence in vice

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  • Anger
  • Justice and fairness
  • Virtue and character

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