Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE
On Benefits 4.8 — Seneca
Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)
Seneca, On Benefits 4.8
Our school regards him as Father Liber, and Hercules, and Mercurius: he is Father Liber because he is the parent of all, who first discovered the power of seed, and our being led by pleasure to plant it; he is Hercules, because his might is unconquered, and when it is wearied after completing its labours, will retire into fire; he is Mercurius, because in him is reasoning, and numbers, and system, and knowledge. Whither-soever you turn yourself you will see him meeting you: nothing is void of him, he himself fills his own work. Therefore, most ungrateful of mortals, it is in vain that you declare yourself indebted, not to God, but to nature, because there can be no God without nature, nor any nature without God; they are both the same thing, differing only in their functions. If you were to say that you owe to Annaeus or to Lucius what you received from Seneca, you would not change your creditor, but only his name, because he remains the same man whether you use his first, second, or third name. So whether you speak of nature, fate, or fortune, these are all names of the same God, using his power in different ways. So likewise justice, honesty, discretion, courage, frugality, are all the good qualities of one and the same mind; if you are pleased with any one of these, you are pleased with that mind.
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Seneca, On Benefits 4.8, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)
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In plain English
AI-written notesThe Stoic school gives God many names according to what he does, and nature, fate and fortune are all names of the one God acting in different ways, so you cannot be thankful to nature and ignore God. Justice, honesty, courage and the other virtues are likewise qualities of a single mind.
Older wording
- “Father Liber”
- — the Roman god of wine and fertility, also called Bacchus
- “Hercules”
- — the hero-god of strength and endurance
- “Mercurius”
- — Mercury, the god of reason and communication
Themes and situations
- Nature and the cosmos
- Virtue and character
- Gratitude
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