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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

On Duties 3.118 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

Translation by Walter Miller (1913)

Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 3.118

And yet when it comes to these three cardinal virtues, those philosophers shift and turn as best they can, and not without cleverness. They admit wisdom into their system as the knowledge that provides pleasures and banishes pain; they clear the way for fortitude also in some way to fit in with their doctrines, when they teach that it is a rational means for looking with indifference upon death and for enduring pain. They bring even temperance in—not very easily, to be sure, but still as best they can; for they hold that the height of pleasure is found in the absence of pain. Justice totters or rather, I should say, lies already prostrate; so also with all those virtues which are discernible in social life and the fellowship of human society. For neither goodness nor generosity nor courtesy can exist, any more than friendship can, if they are not sought of and for themselves, but are cultivated only for the sake of sensual pleasure or personal advantage. Let us now recapitulate briefly.
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Pleasure-based philosophies can stretch to explain wisdom, courage and self-control, but justice and social virtues collapse. Goodness, generosity and friendship are only real if valued for their own sake rather than as tools for pleasure or personal gain.

Older wording

“fortitude”
— courage in bearing pain and hardship
“temperance”
— self-restraint and moderation
“recapitulate”
— sum up

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  • Virtue and character
  • Friendship
  • Justice and fairness
  • Kindness and forgiveness

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