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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Leisure 7 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On Leisure 7

Moreover, there are three kinds of life, and it is a stock question which of the three is the best: the first is devoted to pleasure, the second to contemplation, the third to action. First, let us lay aside all disputatiousness and bitterness of feeling, which, as we have stated, causes those whose paths in life are different to hate one another beyond all hope of reconciliation, and let us see whether all these three do not come to the same thing, although under different names: for neither he who decides for pleasure is without contemplation, nor is he who gives himself up to contemplation without pleasure: nor yet is he, whose life is devoted to action, without contemplation. “It makes,” you say, “all the difference in the world, whether a thing is one’s main object in life, or whether it be merely an appendage to some other object.” I admit that the difference is considerable, nevertheless the one does not exist apart from the other: the one man cannot live in contemplation without action, nor can the other act without contemplation: and even the third, of whom we all agree in having a bad opinion, does not approve of passive pleasure, but of that which he establishes for himself by means of reason: even this pleasure-seeking sect itself, therefore, practises action also. Of course it does, since Epicurus himself says that at times he would abandon pleasure and actually seek for pain, if he became likely to be surfeited with pleasure, or if he thought that by enduring a slight pain he might avoid a greater one. With what purpose do I state this? To prove that all men are fond of contemplation. Some make it the object of their lives: to us it is an anchorage, but not a harbour.
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The three kinds of life, pleasure, thought and action, are not as separate as people claim, since each needs a little of the others, so there is no reason to hate people who chose a different path. Contemplation is best seen as an anchorage, a place to rest and regroup, not a final harbour.

Older wording

“disputatiousness”
— love of arguing
“surfeited”
— overfed, over-indulged

Themes and situations

  • Duty and roles
  • Solitude and retreat
  • Pleasure and pain
  • Learning and progress
  • Peace of mind
  • A hard decision
  • Searching for meaning
  • Burnout and overwork

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